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this-is-me, the eyes have it

Life is not like CSI.

Posted on 2006.04.20 at 14:27
Recently there has been a particularly nasty rape case at Duke University. In brief, the Lacrosse team had a heavily alchol-fuelled party at an off-campus house, hired a couple of strippers, then three of them allegedly raped one of the strippers for half an hour. Complicating factors are that the Lacrosse team are primarily rich white kids and the rape victim is a poor black single-mother-of-two (and a stripper). The race and financial status things prejudices people, almost inevitably. Which direction it prejudices reactions in depends on your prejudices before hand.

Predictably enough, many "conservatives" such as Limbaugh and the like, have had a field day trashing the alleged victim. Less predictably, many "liberals" have also had a go, like the blog TalkLeft.

Is there doubt? Certainly.

Unfortunately, medical evidence collected from the woman seemed to support the allegation that a rape happened (video at http://www.wral.com/news/8820200/detail.html#, "Evidence From Rape Kit Doesn't Always Help Investigators"), no matter what the defense attorney over at TalkLeft said about it. However, DNA evidence failed to link any of the Duke players, specifically, with the incident. And the defense attorneys have been extremely active at muddying the waters with lots of doubt about the reliability of the accuser and the statements of witnesses. Meanwhile, there has been large amounts of very vocal outrage at how "the poor boys" have had their names dragged through the mud, and the fact that they have already been punished by having their season suspended. Also, the coach has resigned.

So, let's look at this a bit. The alcohol-fuelled party, the hiring of strippers, and the shouting of vile racial slurs at several blacks are not under dispute. Neither is the fact that one of the Lacrosse players sent an absolutely vile email. Now, to me, that right there is enough cause to have the team's season suspended while they go through a little bit of training about what is, and isn't, acceptable behavior for human beings who ought to know better. I'm not prepared to say they have been treated unfairly at all, simply because we know that they have done some things worth a bit of punishment and re-education. No, we do NOT know they are rapists. In fact, we do not know ANY of them are rapists. But I'm saying that they haven't been particularly badly treated so far. Certainly for "boys whose names have been dragged through the mud", I haven't seen nearly as many seriously ugly statements about them as I have about the victim.

For the DNA issue -- well, one of the writers of Alas, A blog went the extra mile, and did some excellent research on what DNA evidence can and cannot prove. I can't improve on what Ampersand wrote, I can only point you over there.

And for all the doubt coming out in the press -- this is an extraordinarily good, clever tactic by the defense attorneys. When the case eventually comes to trial, the attorneys on both sides will look for "unprejudiced jurors". Because of how well flooded the media is becoming, one of two things will happen at this stage:

They will eliminate everyone from the jury who pays any attention to the media at all, which in practice generally boils down to eliminating all the people with a decent education who have any interest in the world around them -- leaving people with poor education and thinking skills and little interest in the world around them, who are consequently going to be less than good at evaluating complex evidence and more likely than anyone else to be swayed by slick rhetoric;

Or they will get people who have been in contact with the media stories after all, who have already had lots of doubts about the accuser planted in their minds.

Cynical? Oooh yes. But I've seen it happen before. It works, so people will keep using this tactic. And the sad, ugly part of it is, it practically guarantees that there will NOT be "a fair trial", and there is not a bloody thing the prosecuting attorney can do about it.

For more about this particular case, I can recommend the "justice4twosisters" blog, which is pretty much JUST covering the case, as well as more links off Alas, A blog.

Is there doubt? Yes, there is doubt. Plenty of doubt, and at least some of it will be legitimate. But do we really know what is going on? No, and from what is available in the media, we will not be able to find out, either. And I have a few things I would like to say about testimony and reactions tomorrow.

Comments:


(Anonymous) at 2006-04-20 18:10 (UTC) (Link)

Duke

Kobe Bryant??
luna_the_cat
[info]luna_the_cat at 2006-04-21 18:17 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Duke

Shades of.
(Anonymous) at 2006-04-20 19:37 (UTC) (Link)
Heya. Sorry about the lack of response. That suggestion was very sweet of you and I'll think about it, yeah? My home life thankfully has gotten a lot more peaceful and friendly. Let's hope it stays that way; if it doesn't, though, I promise I'll listen to you.

So how's life? Also those were some good facts you brought up about global warming and R.H.'s source. I'd try and back you up but, sweet Jesus, that man can eat at your -brain- after a while.

So, tell me of life Mrs. Brit!
luna_the_cat
[info]luna_the_cat at 2006-04-21 18:17 (UTC) (Link)
Stick around, I will speak of Scotland. :)

As for the suggestion...my personal experience suggests, things will calm down for a while in situations like this, but problems do not spontaneously solve themselves. If they did, neither jails nor psychiatrists' offices would be nearly as full. Pre-emptive insight is worth the time it takes.
luna_the_cat
[info]luna_the_cat at 2006-04-23 19:15 (UTC) (Link)
Meatn to add -- Also those were some good facts you brought up about global warming and R.H.'s source. I'd try and back you up but, sweet Jesus, that man can eat at your -brain- after a while.

The whole "global warming" issue is startlingly visible up here; I started learning about it when I was working for BP, actually, looking at their marine monitoring software in 1997 and asking the geologists, "what the heck is a 'thermocline'?" It has started to concern me since then.

But don't worry about backing me up on RH's journal. What I do there is purely fun. For one thing I do simply love to be able to provide information -- with references -- that Ralph would rather ignore, so that other people who genuinely don't know get a chance to see what is out there. Otherwise, well, these are people who often only seek out interaction with people who think like them, so it is an open question how many would ever see that information or know it exists. In my own teeny tiny way, I like to think I combat ignorance. It's partly an ego thing.

Beyond that, of course, I do genuinely love Ralph's online webcomics, Tales of the Questor more than the others. And he knows that. And he is, believe it or not, not a total troll. He genuinely has more integrity than that, although it doesn't always show when he is frothing. But here is when we get to the heart of why I chose a feline avatar online; you know how, when there is a roomful of people to hang out with, the cat will find the one person in there who doesn't like cats, and will go sit on them...? Yeah.
Wendy S. Delmater
[info]safewrite at 2006-04-20 22:43 (UTC) (Link)
Peggy Noonan had a great editorial in yesterday's wall street journal about this case. I wish I had saved it, as I am not a subscriber and I deleted it after reading it, but the title was Lay Down With Strippers, Get up With Pleas. The gist was the young men and the woman took on a liability issue by hiring her, and she took on a liability by offering to strip for hire. Then it went on to say much of what you just wrote.
luna_the_cat
[info]luna_the_cat at 2006-04-21 18:14 (UTC) (Link)
Unfortunately, the liability issue ignores another aspect of the case; desperation. The boys hiring a stripper was purely voluntary, something they would have survived without. My experience of people who go into stripping, however, is that they do so because they need the money. When I look at the situation I think, jeez, she was stupid to have walked back into that house; but the thought that comes wrapped up in it is that trying to pay rent/feed kids/go to school can make you desperate for money, and desperation can make people do very stupid things.
fruitbaron
[info]fruitbaron at 2006-04-20 23:43 (UTC) (Link)
That was me <_<
fruitbaron
[info]fruitbaron at 2006-04-21 18:02 (UTC) (Link)
I'm viking bob. Sorry about that. Eh heh. *scratches his head*
luna_the_cat
[info]luna_the_cat at 2006-04-21 18:09 (UTC) (Link)
No fear, we all have days like that. {grin}
a tambourine of smoking suns
[info]moonlitlake at 2006-04-21 11:22 (UTC) (Link)
It's the fingernails left behind (and found) that get me... don't know why, maybe because it seems that they point to a rather fierce struggle at the very least.

As for the fact that she was a stripper. I don't give a shit about that... I have friends that were strippers... in no way, shape or form does that make this crime of violence excusable or the victim's fault (if that is in fact what happened). If people can't handle their alcohol they shouldn't drink. Period.

luna_the_cat
[info]luna_the_cat at 2006-04-21 17:54 (UTC) (Link)
I happen to agree with you...but in the world at large, I think a lot of things will get lost, twisted or distorted in the carnage of uninformed opinion. Actually, I'd be willing to bet my life's savings on that.
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